Kristen Bell & Dax Shepard's Paparazzi Face-Off, Part 4

Kristen Bell & Dax Shepard's Paparazzi Face-Off, Part 4

Dax Shepard and Kristen Bell continue their debate with Steve Ginsberg and Christian Zimmerman of the photo agency AKM-GSI regarding intrusive paparazzi taking photos of celebrities’ children. As the dispute escalates, can Kristen and Dax get Steve and Christian to agree to only take permitted photos of celebrities with their children?

We are back now with Kristen bell and Zack shepherd. And joined by Steve and Christian of the photo agency. I didn't weren't this conversation to go this way. I really truthfully didn't. I don't think it need to. I think it's going great. We have the ultimate our child is at risk right now. Sure. So you are going to seat most passionate side of me. Your child is not at risk so you can take this insane stand you are taking. I don't have a child. So my stand is insane but yours isn't. The fact that you are a teacher and you don't think it's wrong to follow little children. It's not the picture. It's not the picture it's the following and the yelling and the this and that. I don't want you feeling uncomfortable being yelled at or anything but it's legal to take. There we go with the legality. If you still run the picture with the kid Steve you are running the picture will you take the step to investigate the different photographers you have working for you and if you know about them yelling and following and using aggressive tactic the. Yes. This is your moment Steve. This is your light bulb moment. We have we make photographers sign an agreement saying we will not consensual right now but again this is a new thing as of right now. I'm telling you right now we do not want our daughter face anywhere ever until she decides. Because I have the utmost respect for her. Very clear. There are a lot of other parents who feel that way and feel corp erred because some of paparrazi I don't know if you employ them or not say to us just look up once give us one photo and we'll leaf you alone and as a mother I can understand how other actress and entertainer go. Okay panic 30 guys around me. Want it to stop I'll agree to anything. Will you agree to only post consensual pictures of my nors only consensual. As I said a minute ago. I would agree. There's no other yes or no. I don't want to say yes right now and then not follow that. What I'm saying -- I think it's unfair for you to be upset because I am willing to work with you. I am I am agreeing there's a problem. And I am willing to do my part. To work towards fixing it. Wait. I would respect you disagree with my point I just, I think what you are doing is valiant. I think it's great. I think it's fantastic to protect children. I just don't agree that the way you are doing it is the way that it is going -- just like Jennifer and Halle went and they pled and the law is passed but really that law has done nothing and. Again what you are doing. Show a picture. I want to ask you something. If you think this is okay. This picture was taken on the beach by a friend of mine of this paparrazi shooting Adam Sandler kids. Behind a surfboard. He has hollow out. He went. A hole in the surfboard. Cut a circle tout spy on the children all day. This wasn't just a family. This wasn't just adults. These were children. Do you think children under surveillance like this under this kind of a microscope and essentially being spied on by some guy behind a surfboard with a long lens is okay? Well. Do you think this kind of behavior is okay? Because we are not just talking by. As long as the kids doesn't see it. Paparrazi paparrazi there's photo of paparrazi hanging outside a helicopter and Santa clause and story of paparrazi. Right they are all gross. A photo so you are showing me a photo of which a photographer has obviously found a unique and creative way to hide on the beach and take these type of photo. I am a paparrazi. Paparrazi photography essentially is drivetive from hiding out and getting photo of celebrity candid. So you really are just showing me a creative photo of paparrazi at work. Now he's on public beach. Adam Sandler is a celebrity. So again unless there was a law saying you can not photograph celebrity children then he would be. You keep saying we are so much alike I just want to draw distinction with that photo because we are not as much alike as you think. That picture makes me sicpicture makes me sick. It makes me nauseous and I don't think any child should be on the other end of that. So if you think that's okay we are not as unique or together as you think we are. She went there. She went there. She just hit you there. My mom loves apple pie. You know what, all right I think from what we have learned here since we got to wrap it up is I have felt that Steve is open and there is machlt. I feel there's michlt I think there's a really request person in Steve. Focus on the immediate can and buyer is probably right now a better move. Right. Which is fine. We would have never initiate add debate with the broker that's not who we appeal to. We are appealing to outlet. I even think there's movement with Christian. I don't know. He got furtheren trenched. We got deeper in the hole that's for sure. Always good to have a conversation. That's right. Kristen Zack when we come back you are not leaving. We talk parenthood and Veronica Mars next. M parking space I'm driving a deluxe. My volvo